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Genesis Chapter 19

Genesis Recap:

Chapter 1: Creation of everything including man

Chapter 2: Creation account of Man and Woman in the Garden

Chapter 3: The Fall of Man, The Curse pronounced

Chapter 4: Cain and Abel, Seth

Chapter 5: The Genealogy of Adam

Chapter 6: Announcement and Preparation for the Flood

Chapter 7: The Flood

Chapter 8: Exiting the Ark

Chapter 9:  The Rainbow, Noah drunk, Command to eat meat

Chapter 10: The Table of Nations

Chapter 11: The Tower of Babel, Birth of Abraham

ISRAEL EXISTS FROM HERE TO END OF THE BIBLE: FIRST PROMISED, THEN IN EXISTENCE

Chapter 12:  The Call of Abraham, Promise of a Great Nation

Chapter 13: The Migration and Separation of Abraham and Lot

Chapter 14: The War of the Kings, Kidnap and Rescue of Lot by Abraham, Melchizedek

Chapter 15:  God's Unilateral Covenant with the Cleft Animals, Promise of an heir

Chapter 16:  The Birth of Ishmael to Hagar

Chapter 17: The Covenant of Circumcision, Promise of a Son named Isaac

Chapter 18: The Visit of the Three Men, Promise of a Son, Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah foretold

Chapter 19:  The Angels Destroy Sodom and Gomorrah

(Genesis 19:1)
And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

  • There were originally three men (Genesis 18:21-22)
  • One stayed back with Abraham
  • Therefore these two angels alone were given the power and authority to destroy two entire cities with their inhabitants
  • Lot is found in the city gate, as a greeter to what?
  • This bowing to the ground is not worship, because the angels ignored it.
(Genesis 19:2)
And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

  • Washing one's feet (or having others do it) was and is still customary in the desert, due to wearing sandals, plus the dusty ground.
  • It's as though he is saying, "Whatever you two do, do not stay out here at night, and make sure you get up before everyone else and leave quickly!"
  • The angels showed no fear of man at all (and rightly so), fully and perfectly willing to stay in the street all by themselves, all night long.
(Genesis 19:3)
And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

  • His demeanor towards them is gentle, showing he is related to Abraham.
  • In addition, he is firm. It is as though he knows why they should not stay out in the streets and is saying, "Trust me. You do not want to stay out here. It is not safe. You had better be inside at night."
  • He confirms this is the reason they come inside the house in verse number eight
  • It would be hard to be gentle after living like this for so long.
(Genesis 19:4)
But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
  • "But before they lay down" It does not take long for the entire city to want to do wickedly against these angels.
  • These were men, not women. Men after men, not women after men.
  • They knew men entered the house, and not women
  • When you "compass the house round" you are trying to ensure that the people inside have no escape available to them at all.
  • "Both old and young" indicates the pollution had spread so much, even to the younger generation
  • "All the people from every quarter" indicates that it was not just young and old, but city-or cities-wide
  • This shows an insatiable appetite for lust, since there are plenty of others in the city to "know"......there were new men.
(Genesis 4:7)
If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. 

(James 4:5)
Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? 

(Genesis 19:5)
And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
  • This is blatantly forceful to demand such things of a neighbor in their own house........almost like it was expected of Lot to comply
  • To know someone biblically means to have sexual relations with them.
  • They specifically asked for the men, which means they were watching their every move, looking for an opportune time to launch the attack
"TO KNOW", BIBLICALLY

(Genesis 4:1)
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

(Genesis 4:25)
And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

(1 Samuel 1:19-20)
And they rose up in the morning early, and worshipped before the LORD, and returned, and came to their house to Ramah: and Elkanah knew Hannah his wife; and the LORD remembered her. Wherefore it came to pass, when the time was come about after Hannah had conceived, that she bare a son, and called his name Samuel, saying, Because I have asked him of the LORD.

THE OPPORTUNE TIME:

(1 Peter 5:8)
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

(Genesis 19:6)
And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, I will say this for Lot. Apparently he felt safe enough to do this, because he has to have told them previously that he himself was off-limits. Otherwise, no reason to risk a certain physical encounter. The shutting the door behind himself really guarantees no escape and makes him doubly vulnerable.

(Genesis 19:7)
And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Lot is being very protective of his guests He is about to feel their sting for using the word "wickedly" The wicked part was wanting to know the men inside. 

(Genesis 19:8)
Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
  • Lot offers up his own offspring's flesh (which is of his own flesh) to these guys
  • There is a controversy and people think that there is a contradiction as to how many daughters Lot had, but it is possible that either
    • Lot lied about them not knowing men, or
    • He had other daughters
    • They were betrothed and not married, wanting to keep the sons-in-law safe in the house
    • This is not a contradiction
  • In his eyes, the rape of his daughters was better than sodomy of his man guests
  • It is obvious that, when angels and devils manifest a human form, they are indistinguishable from fully fleshly people
  • "for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof" in Abraham's eyes, these men came in for protection from the men of the city, but these angels will soon demonstrate that it is Lot who will need to flee for his own protection.
  • Of course, it is not as though the angels, about to destroy the entire two cities, had anything to fear from man, nor needed Lot's house for protection.
  • It is a need for Lot to have them close to him and not vice versa.
(Genesis 19:9)
And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

  • Their response indicates maybe that he knew that it was a safe bet, since they were not interested.
  • This is why women feel very safe around effeminate men. They simply are not interested in women!
  • They turned down the daughters and then threatened to "know" Lot. This is an actual threat of rape, with the use of the words "worse with thee, than them"
  • Some things never change. "Who are YOU to judge ME?" is still used today to justify this behavior.
  • Notice that they intended to break the door to get at the men (angels).
(Genesis 19:10)
But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.

  • Apparently the angels knew better and saved Lot's skin, because Lot was not as safe as he thought he was.
  • They also did not discuss, argue or otherwise. There was a finality to this city that the angels knew about and Lot did not.
(Genesis 19:11)
And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

  • "Small and great" is here repeated, indicating that the two groups indeed both were ripe for judgment..
  • It also indicates that, when it comes to ultimate judgment, age will not matter. ALL were blinded
  • Sodomites recruit; they do not generally reproduce, which is why there are generations of them in a society.
  • The angels have their timing for destruction and it is after Lot is out of the city, not before. They could have started right there with these men.
(Genesis 19:12)
And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:

  • The sons are never mentioned again, only the sons-in-laws
  • This is sort of like Noah, his wife, sons and their wives...a covering
  • They will be given the same choice.
  • The difference is in the outcome
(Genesis 19:13)
For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.

  • "Waxen great" means that this has grown huge, for some time
  • Since the LORD stayed back with Abraham in the plains of Mamre, the phrase "before the face of the LORD" shows His Omnipresence.
  • The state/condition of a society, nation, culture or even a person has to wax pretty badly for God to finally say, in His longsuffering, "Enough is enough"
(Genesis 18:22)
And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD.  

Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.

1 Peter 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 

(Genesis 19:14)
And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

  • Whenever people warn of judgment, there are those who, for whatever reason, do not want to hear it.
  • For whatever reason, his sons-in-laws took this a little too personally
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NETANYAHU TURNS TABLES IN INTERVIEW


Part ONE:

Even those who aren't particularly sympathetic to Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu could get a good measure of satisfaction from this interview with British Television during the retaliation against Hamas' shelling of Israel.

The interviewer asked him: "How come so many more Palestinians have been killed in this conflict than Israelis?"

Netanyahu: "Are you sure that you want to start asking in that direction?"

Interviewer: "Why not?"

Netanyahu:  "Because in World War II more Germans were killed than British and Americans combined, but there is no doubt in anyone's mind that the war was caused by Germany 's aggression.

And in response to the German blitz on London, the British wiped out the entire city of Dresden, burning to death more German civilians than the number of people killed in Hiroshima ....

Moreover, I could remind you that in 1944, when the R.A.F. tried to bomb the Gestapo Headquarters in Copenhagen, some of the bombs missed their target and fell on a Danish children's hospital, killing 83 little children.

Perhaps you have another question?"

Part TWO:

Benjamin Netanyahu gave another interview and was asked about Israel 's occupation of Arab lands. His response was, "It's our land".

The reporter was stunned - read below "It's our land...

It's important information since we don't get fair and accurate reporting from the media and facts tend to get lost in the jumble of daily events.

"Crash Course on the Arab-Israeli Conflict."

(Just minutes to read!) Here are overlooked facts in the current & past Middle East situation.

A Christian university professor compiled these:

Facts:

  1. Nationhood and Jerusalem: Israel became a nation in 1312 BC, two Thousand (2000) years before the rise of Islam.
  2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.
  3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BC, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand (1000) years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.
  4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 lasted no more than 22 years.
  5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital.
  6. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when The Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders Did not come to visit.
  7. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures.
  8. Jerusalem is not mentioned even once in the Koran.
  9. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.
  10. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.
  11. Arab and Jewish Refugees: in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews.
  12. Sixty-eight percent left (many in fear of retaliation by their own brethren, the Arabs), without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. The ones who stayed were afforded the same peace, civility, and citizenship rights as everyone else.
  13. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.
  14. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.
  15. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people's lands.
  16. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the State of New Jersey...
  17. The Arab-Israeli Conflict: the Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation.
  18. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.
  19. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.
  20. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and
  21. Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.
  22. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.
  23. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.
  24. The UN was silent while the Jordanians destroyed 58 Jerusalem synagogues.
  25. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.
  26. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.. These are incredible times. We have to ask what our role should be.

What will we tell our grandchildren about what we did when there was a turning point in Jewish destiny, an opportunity to make a difference.

(Genesis 19:15)
And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

  • Suddenly it seems the angels are in a real hurry!
  • The daughters "which are here"......perhaps there were more?
  • But.....it must be understood that the blinding of the men at the door was in the evening, and this is now morning.
  • Even in His urgency, God stayed His Hand of judgment in order to allow Lot and his family a good time to rest!
  • God is in the mindset of......."Yer on borrowed time. Have a nice night. Relax. Tomorrow, you are toast."
(Genesis 19:16)
And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.

  • Notice the sons-in-law are not mentioned here.
  • Surely a death angel's hand is large enough for three more people to save their lives.
  • There is also no sign of the blinded people at the door. It may be that either the rest who presumably were not blinded got the message to back off or all of the people in the city were blinded
(Genesis 19:17)
And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

  • The angels were about to have a true scorched-earth policy.
  • What if they did not obey? What happened to Lot's Wife?
  • Why the command to look ahead only?

    (Matthew 10:35-39)
    For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

    And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
    He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 
    And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

    (Luke 9:57-62)
    And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.  And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. 
    And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.   Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house. And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

    (Genesis 19:18-19)
    And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord: Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

    • Lot apparently had either traveled locally to know this, or the reputation of the surrounding areas was enough to make him want to avoid the surrounding mountains
    • He did not want to go "out of the frying pan and into the fire", so to speak.
    • Lot may be showing a lack of faith, since it is obvious that God was going to send him to a place of refuge, not another Sodom and Gomorrah!
    (Genesis 19:20)
    Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

    • People think it is safe to "disappear" into a city and blend in.
    • This is actually an odd time to question God, when He says, "Hurry!"  "Get out!" "I will destroy the city!"  "Don't look back!"
    • Repeating how it is a little one in a statement and a question shows a sort of childish attitude
    • If the city you are in is not influenced by you, but you are influenced by it, then maybe the mountains are the correct choice, as the angels had said in the first place.
    • People, even the most faithful ones like his uncle Abraham, question God. This is universal and recorded throughout Scripture.
    (Genesis 19:21)
    And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken. 

    Obviously three things going on:
    1. Lot was making the same bad decision as moving to Sodom and Gomorrah
    2. This "little one" city was not quite as wicked but maybe close to it ( will not overthrow it), since the angels seemed to avoid destroying it also, because of Lot being there.
    3. The Angel will not destroy the city because now Lot is there with his wife and daughters, something Abraham pleaded for in his talk with the angels. Apparently he did not even have to stop at ten!
    (Genesis 18:32)
    And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy [it] for ten's sake.

    (Genesis 19:22)
    Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

    • Since the angels said that they could not destroy the city without them being gone from it, it shows the protection God affords those who follow him
    • The total number then of escapees is four. Lot, his wife and two daughters
    (Genesis 19:23)
    The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.

    • They left before first light, when those who have been up all night are still asleep
    • Now the sun is up. It must have been awfully bright since night time would have been better to make a "hot rock" show, but apparently it was visible even to those in the distance
    (Genesis 19:24)
    Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 

    • Only by His grace He waited until Lot and his family was gone.
    • That same grace saves today, but this story reveals the choice we make-stay in Sodom and perish, or leave with righteous Lot, and be saved.
    • Notice it says "the LORD" did it, not the angels
    • Angels represent God and are His right hands....
    (2 Peter 2:7-9)
    And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed [his] righteous soul from day to day with [their] unlawful deeds;) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 

    http://creationwiki.org/Sodom

    Archaeological Discoveries

    Today, many people believe that they have found the devastated ruins of these ancient cities. The suspected sites are thought to be located exactly on a fault line along the eastern side of a plain south of the Dead Sea. Bab edh-Dhra, which is thought to be the modern name for Sodom, and Numeira, thought to be Gomorrah, were destroyed at the same time by some catastrophe that left debris about three feet thick. [1] The Associates for Biblical Research published an article in 1999 reporting the

    "The Discovery of the Sin Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah". [2]


    The escape of Lot from Sodom by Gustave Doré

    In 1980, Ron Wyatt observed some strange formations near the Dead Sea, which are believed by some to be the remains of large city structures, although others question the credibility of these assertion. Sulfur balls have also been discovered in the region. According to Genesis 19:24 God rained down burning sulfur on the cities and the entire plain.[3] Answers In Genesis generally disputes Wyatt's claims. For this particular discovery, they point out that sulfur balls have been known to occur naturally, and chemical testing from 'building ash' at the site indicates that the formations are not burnt buildings.[4]
    The 1st century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus mentions Sodom in his the wars of the Jews book four,chapter eight.

    The country of Sodom borders upon it. It was of old a most happy land, both for the fruits it bore and the riches of its cities, although it be now all burnt up. It is related how, for the impiety of its inhabitants, it was burnt by lightning; in consequence of which there are still the remainders of that Divine fire, and the traces [or shadows] of the five cities are still to be seen, as well as the ashes growing in their fruits; which fruits have a color as if they were fit to be eaten, but if you pluck them with your hands, they dissolve into smoke and ashes. And thus what is related of this land of Sodom hath these marks of credibility which our very sight affords us.[5]


    (Genesis 19:25)
    And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

    • This is the original "scorched earth policy"
    • The only reason to do this is to serve as a reminder, a future lesson
    (Genesis 19:26)
    But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

    • Looking back means wanting to go back and can lead us back
    • Often the consequences of continuing in our former life are deadly, such as drugs, sex, violence, etc. DON'T LOOK BACK!
    • Perhaps her possessions were there, her friends, etc.
    • It would appear that her sons and sons-in-law are there, but either way, she was not to look back. Period. Jesus spoke a lot about all of this:
    • This salt would have melted to the ground, eventually.  God could have turned her into Granite or whatever He wanted to.
    • The "Dead" Sea is salt, where these two cities were.......she became part of that
    (Luke 17:31-33)
    In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. Remember Lot's wife. Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. 

    (Luke 21:36)
    Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. 

    (Matthew 10:37)
    He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

    (Matthew 19:29)
    And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 

    (Genesis 19:27-28)
    And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the LORD: And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.

    • Abraham no doubt had a nice city view, prime real estate. Now he has a view of smoke, flames, ashes and the smell of death
    • All of this in one night, which shows that, when God withdraws His Hand of protection, destruction of the highest order is swift and complete.
    • We are ripe for this as well....

    • Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued.  

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9113394/Killing-babies-no-different-from-abortion-experts-say.html


    • It says that "newborn babies are not “actual persons” and do not have a “moral right to life”. 
    • The academics also argue that parents should be able to have their baby killed if it turns out to be disabled when it is born.
    • The journal’s editor, Prof Julian Savulescu, director of the Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics, said the article's authors had received death threats since publishing the article. 
    • He said those who made abusive and threatening posts about the study were “fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society”.
    • They argued: “The moral status of an infant is equivalent to that of a fetus in the sense that both lack those properties that justify the attribution of a right to life to an individual.”
    • Rather than being “actual persons”, newborns were “potential persons”. They explained: “Both a fetus and a newborn certainly are human beings and potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’ in the sense of ‘subject of a moral right to life’. 
    1. Their point:  BOTH are OK to murder
    2. God's point:  NEITHER are OK to murder

    (Genesis 19:29)
    And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.

    • It appears that God spared Lot for the sake of answering Abraham's questioning of how many righteous it would take-apparently there were not even ten
    • The answer was not even four, and then not even three, after Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt. God did not spare the city.
    • Abraham might have not known about Lot's state living there in that city, having presumably lost much contact with him since they parted company, relying instead on the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah's reputation through reports coming out of them
    (Genesis 19:30)
    And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
    • Sometimes our first choice on where we want to go does not work out.
    • God always provides a way of escape
    (1 Corinthians 10:13)
    There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it]. 

    (2 Peter 2:9)-ON LOT
    The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 

    (Genesis 19:31)
    And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

    • Having lost their spouses to the fire and brimstone, the daughters merely had to wait on God to bring new ones.
    • Most likely this was because they were so INfected and AFfected by their lives there that they could not wait and therefore resist anything to get children
    • Pretty sure "there is not a man in the earth" means "there is not a man close by us right this minute"
    (Genesis 19:32)
    Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

    • It may be that, living in Sodom, Lot's daughters saw a lot of things that made them inured to nakedness and fornication, since they were, according to Lot earlier, virgins: all that was required was glass windows, or getting out of the house, plus two eyes.
    (Genesis 19:8)
    Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
     

    (Genesis 19:33)
    And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

    • Failing to wait on God to bring new husbands, nor wanting to move away from the cave to live with Abraham again, they figure that the only way to have offspring is their way, not God's.
    • There is not a natural way to do this, since Lot feared God
    • How drunk do you have to get to "perceive not when she lay down, nor when she arose"?
    • Genesis 7:18-27, Noah got drunk also.
    • 2 Peter 2:7-8 may explain why he did not question the actual actions of the angels at all..........he knew that the cities were ripe for judgment.
    (2 Peter 2:7-8)
    And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed [his] righteous soul from day to day with [their] unlawful deeds;)

    (Genesis 19:34)
    And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

    • As if the first time was not enough, they do it again, this time the same results
    • Lot never even realized this after the first night.
    • Perhaps he was way, way too intoxicated.
    • Who gets that drunk with their daughter and thinks it is OK?
    • Who gets that drunk with their daughter and thinks it is OK TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW???
    (Genesis 19:35)
    And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
    • The result of not knowing what happened the first time is the second time.
    • Both parties are to blame here: Lot for allowing it ignorantly and the daughters for deliberately doing this evil deed.
    (Genesis 19:36)
    Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

    • Both intended and unintended consequences are still consequences
    • This proves that when you push the envelope, God lets you get the results you thought you wanted.........you THOUGHT you wanted.
    (Genesis 19:37)
    And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
    • The significance is that these groups of people are enemies to Israel in the future
    • One of them, Ruth, becomes part of the lineage of the Saviour to Israel, showing that even this God can use.
    (Ruth 4:10-22)
    Moreover Ruth the Moabitess, the wife of Mahlon, have I purchased to be my wife, to raise up the name of the dead upon his inheritance, that the name of the dead be not cut off from among his brethren, and from the gate of his place: ye [are] witnesses this day. And all the people that [were] in the gate, and the elders, said, [We are] witnesses. The LORD make the woman that is come into thine house like Rachel and like Leah, which two did build the house of Israel: and do thou worthily in Ephratah, and be famous in Bethlehem: And let thy house be like the house of Pharez, whom Tamar bare unto Judah, of the seed which the LORD shall give thee of this young woman.
    So Boaz took Ruth, and she was his wife: and when he went in unto her, the LORD gave her conception, and she bare a son.And the women said unto Naomi, Blessed [be] the LORD, which hath not left thee this day without a kinsman, that his name may be famous in Israel.
    And he shall be unto thee a restorer of [thy] life, and a nourisher of thine old age: for thy daughter in law, which loveth thee, which is better to thee than seven sons, hath born him. And Naomi took the child, and laid it in her bosom, and became nurse unto it.
    And the women her neighbours gave it a name, saying, There is a son born to Naomi; and they called his name Obed: he [is] the father of Jesse, the father of David.
    Now these [are] the generations of Pharez: Pharez begat Hezron, And Hezron begat Ram, and Ram begat Amminadab, And Amminadab begat Nahshon, and Nahshon begat Salmon, And Salmon begat Boaz, and Boaz begat Obed, And Obed begat Jesse, and Jesse begat David.  (Matthew 1:1-6)
    The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her [that had been the wife] of Urias;

    (Genesis 19:38)
    And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.


    • The Ammonites were giants as well 
    • The name of neither daughter, nor the sons, sons-in-laws, nor Lot's wife, are ever mentioned in Scripture.
    • The sons of the daughters, Moab, and Ammon are.
    • Solomon married an Ammonite, which led him astray
    (Deuteronomy 2:20-21)
    (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims; A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead: SOLOMON

    (1 Kings 11:1-8)
    But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, [and] Hittites;
    Of the nations [concerning] which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: [for] surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love. And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart. 
    For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, [that] his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as [was] the heart of David his father. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as [did] David his father.
    Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that [is] before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. And likewise did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods.

    (Ezra 9:1)
    Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, [doing] according to their abominations, [even] of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.

    (Nehemiah 4:7-8)
    But it came to pass, [that] when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and the Arabians, and the Ammonites, and the Ashdodites, heard that the walls of Jerusalem were made up, [and] that the breaches began to be stopped, then they were very wroth, And conspired all of them together to come [and] to fight against Jerusalem, and to hinder it.

    TWO LESSONS:
    • God cannot overthrow the righteous with the wicked
    • He does sometimes take home those He cannot use because of their sin, who no longer glorify Him, but the world and their flesh.

    Genesis Chapter 20

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